easier and less of a mess to use than just pulling the lower hose. I do realize the lower pipe can just be rotated down. I also want to use the stock shroud so I'd need holes to mount that. Also, on my Howe radiator, the upper pipe is enormous and would definately not work with any hose designed for the Z. I would have to have that removed and have a stock size pipe welded on. I agree that for ~$80 I can just have it slightly modified and it would work but I like to have it done a certain way, I'm sorta anal like that I guess.